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geerlingguy 22 hours ago [-]
This is the first I've actually heard of the name change... I used to use Varnish quite a bit, and had a decent grasp of VCL, for Drupal deployments. But I think Varnish 6 or 7 was when I started dropping off managing the caching layer as almost every project chose to offload caching to Cloudflare.
captn3m0 15 hours ago [-]
This is helpful, but it is yet to be seen how downstream picks it up. Wikidata[0] has renamed it and marked the Vinyl repo as the preferred one. Gentoo[1] renamed the package and switched to Vinyl. Homebrew[2] is now tracking Varnish Software (downstream of Vinyl). Fedora[3] has switched to Varnish Software as well. At endoflife.date[5], we renamed to vinyl and switched tracking as well. Wikipedia[6] has renamed Varnish (Software) -> Vinyl Cache.
Did not know this had happened, but does seem PHK (the original author of Varnish) is now with of the Vinyl Cache project, so this is not just a typical fork.
willjp 19 hours ago [-]
I appreciate the mysql/mariadb comparison.
nesarkvechnep 9 hours ago [-]
It finally made it click for me.
wmf 22 hours ago [-]
What's the deal with Antirez and PHK refusing to add TLS support?
phkamp 17 hours ago [-]
I'm not "refusing to add TLS support" I insist that the certificate is safely isolated in a separate process for security reasons. There are many ways to skin that cat.
captn3m0 15 hours ago [-]
Aside: Loved your bit talking about money and varnish in Gift Community[1]. And thanks for the Beerware License, I've started using it!
the whole point of varnish software keeping a public version of "vinyl cache" as "varnish cache" with TLS is to give people a way to access a FOSS version with native TLS.
I think TLS is table-stakes now, and has been for the last 10 years, at least.
time4tea 13 hours ago [-]
just use the tool that does the job.
TLS in -> hitch or caddy
Cache -> varnish/vinyl
TLS out -> haproxy
[0]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1602447
[1]: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=679937b...
[2]: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/273280
[3]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/varnish/c/59f403810b746e0...
[4]: https://repology.org/project/varnish/packages
[5]: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/9792
[6]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_Cache
[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOn-L3tGKw0
I think TLS is table-stakes now, and has been for the last 10 years, at least.
TLS in -> hitch or caddy Cache -> varnish/vinyl TLS out -> haproxy
Connect them up with Unix sockets, if you like.