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cedws 23 hours ago [-]
“Supervised self-driving” feels like an oxymoron. It’s either safe enough to be completely autonomous or it’s not. There’s no way a human driver being assisted by self-driving is going to be ready to take over at a moments notice with the same awareness that they would have if they were driving the whole time. This is going to kill people.
sMarsIntruder 23 hours ago [-]
No, it’s not.
This solution went through millions of kilometres of data and tests.
RDW tested it themselves. That isn't real world usage. Real world drivers will not pay the same attention, and they'll do stupid shit like game the driver attention mechanism so they can watch TikTok.
sMarsIntruder 21 hours ago [-]
This is FUD. Supervised means that the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention.
But I get this type of comments just to go against one person.
cedws 21 hours ago [-]
Yes. And people will find a way to game it like they always do.
DemocracyFTW2 17 hours ago [-]
> the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention
If this is the world you want there's literally no common ground here
satvikpendem 16 hours ago [-]
How else would you determine whether the driver is paying attention?
hulitu 22 hours ago [-]
Of course it is not. I also do "supervised self driving". In fact, everybody does it. The fact that Tesla drivers are only now able to do it, tell us something about their driving abilities.
Stop. Spreading. FUD /s
sMarsIntruder 21 hours ago [-]
So if you say BS you can just add /s and it’s fine?
TechTechTech 23 hours ago [-]
> RDW said the EU sets stricter requirements for safety during vehicle approvals than the U.S. "This means that the FSD Supervised version in the U.S. is NOT comparable to the FSD Supervised version in the EU," it said, without providing further details.
The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world. More info on differences between USA and NL on the site of RDW (Dutch)
First here relates to the first country that approved. Other OEMs already have hands off level two systems, nobody disputes that.
consp 23 hours ago [-]
No article has mentioned insurance rates. I would not be surprised if this has consequences for that. I'm not saying this as good or bad but as insurers being cautious as the liability question in civil procedures ultimately comes to them.
one_more_q 18 hours ago [-]
In the US there are insurance companies that will give you a discount for each mile you drive with FSD enabled. That should give you an it’s on the impact…
expedition32 20 hours ago [-]
I wonder how this will pan out.
In the Netherlands roads are mixed with old people walking their dog and children on bicycles going to school. We're not in Phoenix anymore.
black_13 22 hours ago [-]
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10lap 23 hours ago [-]
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zerzera 23 hours ago [-]
Just plain quid pro quo (corruption). We get a mega factory, Tesla gets our approval.
This solution went through millions of kilometres of data and tests.
RDW did a really thorough job since we’re talking about Europe: https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/rdw-explanation-of-european-...
Stop. Spreading. FUD.
But I get this type of comments just to go against one person.
If this is the world you want there's literally no common ground here
Stop. Spreading. FUD /s
The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world. More info on differences between USA and NL on the site of RDW (Dutch)
https://www.rdw.nl/nieuws/2026/toelichting-rdw-op-europese-t...
But the Dutch are still not able to drive safely on the Autobahn.
https://youtu.be/dii5jnZMAHQ
Which is irrelevant on real roads.
"Our product works really well in the lab, it's the real environment that causes problems"